Comments on: The Father Bob Show #023 - Let’s talk about drugs http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/ Catholic priest, Social Innovator, Rebel With A Cause. Wed, 3 Dec 2008 00:16:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Fen http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-261 Fen Fri, 05 May 2006 19:46:58 +0000 http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-261 Hey Father Bob and Cameron, Ex pat Aussie here listening from London. I love to hear your podcasts and am an avid listener of the Sunday night Safran show. I'm a mature student studying counselling, maybe I can offer my skills when I graduate and return to Australia one day. Keep up the fine work. Fen Hey Father Bob and Cameron,

Ex pat Aussie here listening from London. I love to hear your podcasts and am an avid listener of the Sunday night Safran show. I’m a mature student studying counselling, maybe I can offer my skills when I graduate and return to Australia one day.

Keep up the fine work.

Fen

]]> By: Cameron http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-258 Cameron Thu, 04 May 2006 04:34:15 +0000 http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-258 Lindsey, we're completely with you on that point. We need to de-corporatize "charity". I want to see more viable options for people to "get involved" in their local community on a volunteer basis, loosely coupled, low overhead. We need to use the net to decentralize. Loose, fast, light weight. Lindsey, we’re completely with you on that point. We need to de-corporatize “charity”. I want to see more viable options for people to “get involved” in their local community on a volunteer basis, loosely coupled, low overhead. We need to use the net to decentralize. Loose, fast, light weight.

]]> By: bobmaguire http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-257 bobmaguire Thu, 04 May 2006 00:11:16 +0000 http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-257 lindsey, god,you're so right.i just want to propose a social activist alternative to the lazy NGO/NFP model which has evolved over the past 30 years.We haven't a moment to lose!bobmaguire. lindsey, god,you’re so right.i just want to propose a social activist alternative to the lazy NGO/NFP model which has evolved over the past 30 years.We haven’t a moment to lose!bobmaguire.

]]> By: Lindsey http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-256 Lindsey Wed, 03 May 2006 19:26:18 +0000 http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-256 Informatel. I once worked for a well known national charity org, from which I later resigned from on principle. They agressively fundraised in the larger cities and small regional towns, even remote aboriginal communities. Funds raised locally when into the national coffers. When the figures were looked at more closely though, less than 5% actually went back to help support local projects. In smaller communities, the figures were more like 0% to 2%. The rest was chewed up on high corporate salaries, late model company cars and the like. Nobody minds 'paying the piper' his fair due, but..... If a greater share of funds raised locally could be spent locally, with only a reasonable 'overhead' being skimmed, communities would be much better serviced. Currently, charitable organisations are big business, very corporatised in structure, internal profit provisioning and non-disclosure ethics. 'Supersize me'. Thus the true potential value of social captial is significantly eroded and minimised. (Sorry, this was probably more suited for your Social Capitalist page.) Informatel.

I once worked for a well known national charity org, from which I later resigned from on principle. They agressively fundraised in the larger cities and small regional towns, even remote aboriginal communities. Funds raised locally when into the national coffers.

When the figures were looked at more closely though, less than 5% actually went back to help support local projects. In smaller communities, the figures were more like 0% to 2%. The rest was chewed up on high corporate salaries, late model company cars and the like. Nobody minds ‘paying the piper’ his fair due, but…..

If a greater share of funds raised locally could be spent locally, with only a reasonable ‘overhead’ being skimmed, communities would be much better serviced.

Currently, charitable organisations are big business, very corporatised in structure, internal profit provisioning and non-disclosure ethics. ‘Supersize me’. Thus the true potential value of social captial is significantly eroded and minimised.

(Sorry, this was probably more suited for your Social Capitalist page.)

]]> By: Cameron http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-255 Cameron Wed, 03 May 2006 11:08:52 +0000 http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-255 I feel exactly the same way LIndsey. I think their line at the moment is that they are the ABC and the ABC doesn't allow "advertising"... but that doesn't stop guests on Safran's show spruiking their wares, nor does it stop Safran himself spruiking "God Vs Safran", so I don't know why Fr Bob should be singled out. I'm going to help him fight it. I feel exactly the same way LIndsey. I think their line at the moment is that they are the ABC and the ABC doesn’t allow “advertising”… but that doesn’t stop guests on Safran’s show spruiking their wares, nor does it stop Safran himself spruiking “God Vs Safran”, so I don’t know why Fr Bob should be singled out. I’m going to help him fight it.

]]> By: Lindsey http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-254 Lindsey Wed, 03 May 2006 10:57:06 +0000 http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-254 I would have thought JJJ and Bob had the same market demographic. If JJJ are not able to support him, then the relationship is fundamentally exploitative. They use his name to attain market share, while giving 'nothing' in return. Suggests that their 'youth radio' image is purely a marketing gimmick, without any genuine desire to be responsive to youth in crisis. Interesting I would have thought JJJ and Bob had the same market demographic. If JJJ are not able to support him, then the relationship is fundamentally exploitative. They use his name to attain market share, while giving ‘nothing’ in return. Suggests that their ‘youth radio’ image is purely a marketing gimmick, without any genuine desire to be responsive to youth in crisis. Interesting

]]> By: Cameron http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-252 Cameron Tue, 02 May 2006 08:42:32 +0000 http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-252 Liam, Nathan, thanks for the continued support, glad you enjoyed the show. Liam, apparently Triple J won't let Bob spruik his plans on the show. We're trying to figure out how to fight the decision. Met today with a guy from Informatel to look into using SMS to raise funds, but very concerned to find out that between Informatel and the Telco they will take 60% off the top of every dollar donated. Liam, Nathan, thanks for the continued support, glad you enjoyed the show. Liam, apparently Triple J won’t let Bob spruik his plans on the show. We’re trying to figure out how to fight the decision. Met today with a guy from Informatel to look into using SMS to raise funds, but very concerned to find out that between Informatel and the Telco they will take 60% off the top of every dollar donated.

]]> By: Nathan Blyth http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-250 Nathan Blyth Tue, 02 May 2006 08:02:50 +0000 http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-250 Hey guys, great show again. Really informative, I learned alot about drugs that I didn't know. I was interested in hearing Richard's perspective on things. Keep the shows coming guys. Cheers, Nathan. Hey guys, great show again. Really informative, I learned alot about drugs that I didn’t know. I was interested in hearing Richard’s perspective on things. Keep the shows coming guys. Cheers, Nathan.

]]> By: Liam http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-249 Liam Tue, 02 May 2006 07:47:12 +0000 http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-249 Hey Cam and Bob, Very interesting podcast. Very interesting comment also: "subscribers need to receive the product for which they pay". Bugger us. Unless your wasting our time with long adverts than there's no problem having a guest every now and then. Anyway, Cam, did you end up setting up that meeting with JJJ for Bob? Anymore ideas as far as the charity auction? I am really keen to get something up and going but am stuck in limbo at the moment waiting on which way to proceed and how it should be done. Liam Hey Cam and Bob,
Very interesting podcast.

Very interesting comment also: “subscribers need to receive the product for which they pay”. Bugger us. Unless your wasting our time with long adverts than there’s no problem having a guest every now and then.

Anyway, Cam, did you end up setting up that meeting with JJJ for Bob? Anymore ideas as far as the charity auction? I am really keen to get something up and going but am stuck in limbo at the moment waiting on which way to proceed and how it should be done.

Liam

]]> By: bobmaguire http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-248 bobmaguire Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:49:54 +0000 http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-248 daniel,sorry about that.richard blew in just as cameron and i were settling down to record.he's just so knowledgeable about drugs and harm minimisation that i didn't want to miss the chance for you guys to hear him.i should've got cameron and he to make a subsequent engagement.subscribers need to receive the product for which they pay.bobmaguire. daniel,sorry about that.richard blew in just as cameron and i were settling down to record.he’s just so knowledgeable about drugs and harm minimisation that i didn’t want to miss the chance for you guys to hear him.i should’ve got cameron and he to make a subsequent engagement.subscribers need to receive the product for which they pay.bobmaguire.

]]> By: Cameron http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-247 Cameron Fri, 28 Apr 2006 23:39:32 +0000 http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-247 Hey Daniel, sorry your show got cut off. And you're right, not much of Bob talking this week, he preferred to have Richard do the talking. You didn't like what Richard had to say? Hey Daniel, sorry your show got cut off. And you’re right, not much of Bob talking this week, he preferred to have Richard do the talking. You didn’t like what Richard had to say?

]]> By: Daniel Howe http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-240 Daniel Howe Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:19:35 +0000 http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-240 The last five minutes of my download were cut off. Either way I felt that this episode of the Father Bob Show didn't feature that much Father Bob at all. The last five minutes of my download were cut off. Either way I felt that this episode of the Father Bob Show didn’t feature that much Father Bob at all.

]]> By: Cameron http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-217 Cameron Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:08:25 +0000 http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-217 Hey Nathan, they take a few cents I think. And I'm not sure how the tax deduction thing works - I think you can add all of your charity contributions over the course of a year, but you better check with your accountant. Hey Nathan, they take a few cents I think. And I’m not sure how the tax deduction thing works - I think you can add all of your charity contributions over the course of a year, but you better check with your accountant.

]]> By: Nathan Blyth http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-216 Nathan Blyth Thu, 27 Apr 2006 11:37:12 +0000 http://fatherbob.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/04/27/the-father-bob-show-023-lets-talk-about-drugs/#comment-216 Hey guys, just wondering what the story is with the PayPal. Do you know exactly how much is taken by PayPal? Also does $1 a week add up over the year for tax deductions? Good to see the Social Capitalist Show is up & running. I'll listen to it tomorrow. Cheers, Nathan. Hey guys, just wondering what the story is with the PayPal. Do you know exactly how much is taken by PayPal? Also does $1 a week add up over the year for tax deductions? Good to see the Social Capitalist Show is up & running. I’ll listen to it tomorrow. Cheers, Nathan.

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