The Father Bob Show #026 - Jesus The Mutant
The Father Bob Show #026 (MP3 - 14MB - 39min)
- Was Jesus the original member of the X-Men?
- Is anyone out there going to step up and help?
- Is Pearl Jam going to give us a percentage of their Aussie ticket sales?
- If you’re climbing Mt Everest should you stop to help people?
- Is this podcast going to be featured on the BBC next week?
- Is Bob ever going to tell us what to do?
- Have you registered yourself on our map?
These questions and more are answered in this week’s show!
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May 26th, 2006 at 11:17 pm
If I lived back in Melbourne I would help you in a flash Father Bob. But I’m a bit far away in ye olde London. By the way, I’m a girl (Fenella)!! I have a laptop and Skype….surely there’s someone in Australia who can do this…come on guys!
As for Wolverine, he had a mental breakdown and his mutations were harsh and made him semi feral. I haven’t seen X3 yet but I’ll get there eventually!
You can’t just disappear Bob, I’ll send the minions out to find you!
May 27th, 2006 at 12:55 am
Hey Cam, what’s the story? When I post a message on G’day World it says awaiting moderation?????????? Whats goin on here man?????????????????????????? Cheers, Nathan.
May 28th, 2006 at 11:21 am
Cam, Bob. Come on troops. A very sad show. We need to hold our heads high and overcome these slight obsticles.
Anyway, if you can’t find anyone locally to help host the show I’m happy to throw up my hand. I thought you’d have local offers in abundance but it seems not and I’d love to have a go but I’m not sure what it would invlove.
Bob, I think an action plan really needs to be put into place to set some goals and meet them.
It sounds to me like the Father Bob foundation really needs a renewable source of income, not just one off payments. I think the inital goal should be to set some investments which can provide income for the life of the foundation.
This needs to be done as soon as possible so a proportion of the investment income can go to helping with today’s problems, and a proportion can be reinvested to generate more income for the future.
A solid financial ‘foundation’, parden the pun, would really get things going. Not to mention the foundation of troops now building.
However, I think things may have been running a little disorganised as out went the great call for troops however these troops now have nothing to do.
There needs to be direction and certainty (at least belief) that it can be done. This is why Show 26 is such a pivotal point on the path.
Will we go down with the ship or jump on the lifeboats?
Liam
May 28th, 2006 at 1:19 pm
liam,the fbmfoundation has been in place for 18months.it provides “remedial”care for about 30 survivors of the drug wars of the ’80’s.my personal supporters have contributed several 10ks to pay the bills.I agree that the next episode in the fbmfoundation adventure…the identification and activation of social reporters/activists around australia.Cameron says we’re ok ‘cos we’ve built a PLATFORM from which to launch the expedition.that’s a leadership point of view yours is the management point of view which,i wholeheartedly agree,needs urgent and close attention.I’m not going anywhere.i’m still alert and not alarmed.respect.email,by the way,sppchurch@hotmail.com.au
May 28th, 2006 at 7:00 pm
Nathan - yeah the first time you post a comment on any TPN blog you need to be approved to stop the bad guys. It’s up there now mate!
Liam - love your enthusiasm dude! Agree we need a plan of action from here. Both in terms of fund raising as well as building awareness and exactly WHAT TO DO. Don’t fear though - Bob and I could have sat around and figured those things out in advance of doing the show but I thought we could just as well work them out WHILE doing the show. If anyone loses interest at this stage then I’d suggest they ain’t the troops we’re looking for in the first place. I’m looking for people to contribute ideas, not just wait for them. Like you. :-)
May 28th, 2006 at 7:15 pm
liam,like you contribute ideas,not just wait.please persist.respect.bobmaguire.
May 29th, 2006 at 9:11 pm
Don’t worry I’m constantly thinking of ideas for the cause. I’m just a little busy getting my business sorted out. Am now expanding product lines.
Also Cameron, if you don’t mind me asking, how does the Podcast make money?
Is the Podcast network just a hub for Podcasts providing the blog, and hosting?
Am interested in what the day to day operations are.
Liam
May 29th, 2006 at 11:31 pm
Liam, I don’t mind you asking and the answers are:
1. it doesn’t
2. TPN owns the podcasts, provides the hosting, blogs, etc. We’re a publisher of podcasts.
May 30th, 2006 at 10:56 am
Hi Cameron,
I think one of the reasons that people aren’t putting up there hand to take over the reins is becasue you do such a great job! I’d throw my hand up to help out if I was in melbourne, I think the face to face chemistry really makes the show work. Also re: What are the Ninjas going to do. Maybe we could get a nation of nijas all doing different things so you’ve got some doing the reporting on situations thing , some doing the staffing a hope van thing, some doing the meeting with politicians thing, some doing the raising money thing, etc… Depending on skills all who are connected to the Father Bob ninja squad. So if we know what else is around and if we can’t do the hope van thing any more we can join other ninjas doing something else. Whadda ya reckon? And thanks for such a consistantly great show!
Chris
May 30th, 2006 at 2:59 pm
chris,i posted an hour ago and it’s disappeared.was good stuff,too.i said then and i say again(polly speak!)anyone who wants to be a “ninja”/social activist/social reporter/virtual streetworker/online shareholder fatherbobmaguirefoundation need only express an interest in becoming alert to local/neighbourhood socially inhibiting or enhancing factors.i can offer such a recruit a basic training course designed by OpenFamily(my first foundation 25 years ago)by distance learning.i’m sure it can be done.hopemobiles and other paraphenalia can come later.Btw fatherbob is a brand,not a personality cult.respect.bobmaguire.letr’s hope this one gets through.
May 30th, 2006 at 4:03 pm
Cam,
Fully agree with Chris. You’re a hard act to follow :)
But I’ll throw my hand up (if Bob wants to talk to me, of course), just let me know when/if you need me.
Matt
May 30th, 2006 at 5:48 pm
Hey Cam & Bob, if you’re willing to teach me. I’ll have a crack at doing the show. Not sure if I have the voice for podcasting though. I have broadband & just got a skype account, so I could do it on skype if Bob has it aswell. Great show guys, keep them coming. Cheers, Nathan.
May 31st, 2006 at 1:11 am
That’s what I call group participation!
May 31st, 2006 at 9:08 am
liam,the only way to go.it’s about building a ‘civil society’, affirming the ‘local’ while celebrating the ‘global’.bobmaguire.
June 1st, 2006 at 3:53 pm
Listening to Sunday Night Father Bob and that hanger on Safran is mentioning about going to LA. Why not get Cam on to replace Safran while he is away!
JMTC
Molly
June 1st, 2006 at 7:52 pm
molly, seems they’re BOTH going away.bobmag.
June 1st, 2006 at 11:33 pm
Oh, at the same time? D’oh!
Maybe you could ask Cam to lend you one of his Sock Puppets.
;-)
Molly
June 3rd, 2006 at 9:05 am
molly, i’m already safran the organ grinder’s monkey.sock puppet too demanding a role.bobmag.
June 6th, 2006 at 11:22 am
Bob, heard you mention 2 Pac on Sunday Night Safran.
You would be very interested in his work due to his social activism and socialist background (of course before the fame took over leading to his eventual demise).
2 Pac did a lot for black America and his death was very unfortunate and untimely.
Liam
June 6th, 2006 at 2:21 pm
liam, i think i caught the show on SBS.reminded me of the ultrasad deterioration of elvis presley….and lots of other young women and men i’ve met over the last forty+years.my foundation is in memory of those whose dreams turned into nightmares.bobmaguire.
June 7th, 2006 at 9:03 am
Bob, I sent an email to ’sppchurch@hotmail.com.au’, is this your email address?
Liam
June 7th, 2006 at 9:09 am
liam,yes,but the devil might be sabotaging our communications.bobmaguire.
June 7th, 2006 at 11:10 am
Father Bob, I’ve seen it posted a few times and I need to correct you, as a long time listener ( Via podcast) of your jjj show, your email addreess is ppchurch@hotmail.com, NO AU on the end.
ws
June 7th, 2006 at 9:17 pm
Hey Bob, I think you should take Safran up on his offer & do Sunday Night Safran with you & Cameron. You guys could plug the Father Bob Maguire Foundation. Cheers, Nathan.
June 7th, 2006 at 11:00 pm
Safran made that offer?
June 8th, 2006 at 11:58 am
Nathan I can’t remember hearing that offer? That would be great.
I rememeber Safran asking Bob who he was going to have on the show.
Bob, I have sent the email to ‘info@sppchurch.org.au’ and Cameron.
Liam
June 8th, 2006 at 12:49 pm
Well it’s confirmed folks. I’m on this Sunday night. Listen in, it should be fun.
June 8th, 2006 at 1:25 pm
Nice work Cameron, big plug for the foundation or what?
June 8th, 2006 at 4:08 pm
we’ll see what makes it to air dude.
June 8th, 2006 at 4:25 pm
Sweet guys, should be great. Plug the foundation Cam, & TPN! Hope it goes well, I can’t believe they agreed to it after them saying they couldn’t help last time. Looks like I’m doin my job as a ninja ok then. Cheers, Nathan.
June 8th, 2006 at 5:57 pm
Nathan, to clarify - they haven’t invited me on to talk about TPN or FBMF. We’re discussing MMORPGS and virtual communities.
June 8th, 2006 at 9:22 pm
So, just slip it into the conversation. If they don’t put it to air, then we can expose them for the barstards they are!
June 9th, 2006 at 7:49 pm
Hi Bob and Cam, I’m in Brisbane and would be happy to do the show over the phone if you like? I’m a computer programmer in training to be an anglican priest but I haven’t looked into podcasting or used VOIP before - I assume that’s what you’re thinking?
Matt
June 10th, 2006 at 1:08 am
Mathew, how do you train to be a priest? That is something I have never even thought of. What are the requirements to become a priest?
Liam
June 10th, 2006 at 7:12 am
In another lifetime, I spent time at a theologian’s college and post involvement in pastoral affairs. Long time ago and hopefully things have changed. A lot of emphasis on doctrine and history, and the regurgitation thereof. A little on practical matters of management, presentation techniques, and the like. Nowhere near enough on conflict resolution, counseling, and relationships.
More focus on being a good ‘corporate’ church member than on being ecumenically socially active. It seemed more about addressing the needs of the (big C) Church rather than (big C) Community. Corporate Christian before community citizen.
In retrospect, ‘becoming a priest’ should have a healthy dose of reality, personal life skills, and community awareness. I think Cameron raised the question ( in his usual delightfully irreverent manner), when talking to the chap from Drug Arm, about how much does a Drug councilor needs to know about using drugs and drug culture. While I don’t think you need to be a reformed drug addict to work with addicts, you still need to have a thorough knowledge and respect for the intricacies of the culture.
And a genuine respect at that. Whether it is working with addicts, street kids, or whatever, there are many positive aspects which can be easily overlooked if viewed solely from an academic perspective of aberrant or pathological behaviours.
I once had a small involvement with working with railway kids in India. Homeless kids living/surviving out of India’s railway stations. For all the negatives aspects and hardened mercenary survivor mentality, I was greatly impressed at the peer to peer solidarity often evident amongst them. They looked out for one another within their crews, sometimes providing a stronger support network than many of them would have found at home.
So this positive become the focus of a Children as Agents of Change approach, training and supporting kids to help other kids in providing access to (admittedly basic) education and health services. Things like wandering ‘mini-schools’ held among the noise and squalor of the railway platform.
Problems defined pathologically, tend to develop pathological solutions which encourage co-dependency between service provider and client. Systemic solutions to systemic problems tend to perpetuate rationalised dependencies. But hey, sorry, that’s another discussion.
To become a priest? Become a person first, then a community member, then a priest. Develop personal life skills, then community mediation skills, then relationship skills, then history, doctrine, and protocols. Just a thought….
June 10th, 2006 at 9:05 am
liam,experience of a parallel universe,for starters.bobmaguire.
June 11th, 2006 at 7:11 pm
lindsey, i’ve met those indian kids when their reps visited an australian conference.that point of looking out for oneanother struck me as being the difference between india’s street people and ours.poverty puts them on the street.something else puts ours there.& i couldn’t agree more with your description of priest training.respect.bobmaguire.
June 11th, 2006 at 9:02 pm
Hey Bob and Cam. Not sure what is happening tomorrow as I haven’t heard back. I am still available before the football so Cam give me a call if you can get the hookups. Number 0427519543.
I am posting to the board instead of using email as I can’t get my laptop on the net where I am staying. It was working last night but not tonight.
Liam
June 11th, 2006 at 10:59 pm
Father Bob, poverty comes in so many different forms. There is no one right global strategy.
In the past few years, most of my work has been with village scale sustainability projects within various Asian countries. Projects ranging from village school construction in India, setting up low cost wheelchair production in Thailand, to teaching organic farming methods to traditional farmers in Philippines.
The nature of poverty in each country has been quite different. In India, too many people, not enough resources, poverty touches everyone, permeates everything. Poverty is extreme and very confronting.
In Philippines, a poverty of greed, not scarcity. The wealthy living in beautiful landscaped gated suburbs, defined by high walls, razor wire and patrolling uniformed street guards armed with pump action shotguns. While I was there, there was an article in the newspaper proposing the strategic placement of huge billboards so the ‘decent’ people did not have to be visually confronted by the nearby slum dwellings of the poor.
Early one Sunday morning I was lost while trying to find my way to a local Cathedral in downtown Manilla. In an open stairwell descending from the overhead railway, I came across a young boy near enough to being naked, lying on the gritty steps. He’d clearly been there all night.
He was so weak and apathetic, he barely moved as I passed by, stirring only to hold up a skinny little hand for coins without bothering to look at who was there. A few metres away at the bottom of the steps was food stall selling fresh hamburgers. I bought several in a paper bag and took them back to him.
At first he was suspicious of the bag, not being sure what I was offering him. He took it reluctantly and gingerly opened it. As soon as he realised what it was, he ripped into the tucker with great haste. I left at that point, not wishing him to feel he needed to thank me or anything. Not that he was conscious of anything but the food.
That afternoon, I was at one of the many palatial super-sized shopping centres of Manilla. These places are virtual cities. One even has its own indoor mini-railway line to take shoppers from one end to the other. The show of wealth was staggering.
I came across a cat show in the shopping centre featuring highly priced well bred and well fed moggies. I couldn’t help but feel disgust, comparing the cost of maintaining these spoilt felines against the cost of feeding and clothing the boy I had seen earlier.
So many different ways of being poor, marginalised and in need…..
June 18th, 2006 at 10:10 am
lindsey, your posts on the forum issue of fbn are impressive…immediately useful.your warning about “wandering off in boredom” challenges all of us interested parties to “just do it”.respect.bobmaguire.